@liw When you could ask a random group of high schoolers what the 4 essential freedoms of free software are and they could get them right. That would insure that the seed had at least been planted. Success for free software to me is a philosophical/awareness goal, not a technical one. Technical concerns are becoming less and less visible to more and more people and will probably continue to trend that way. Good philosophies tend to stick around since they make it through the furnace of history.