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@atyh True, that's why things like this are so powerful. It helps a lot of people understand history that they haven't been taught. I'm still playing catch-up.

@atyh I think that's how it happened, but correlation doesn't imply causation. It might be possible to get the same/better results with better outcomes for more people.

@atyh @ned You guys are awesome to chat with! I agree about the primal force. You see it everywhere including code. That is why the, "do one thing and do it well" principle in Unix is so on point. It makes me think that smaller localized markets could work, but I wonder what kind of cap they could place on technological progress.

@atyh Well, actually it does a lot of the time. A couple of years ago I remember sitting down to a dinner of filet mignon that I prepared with some vegetables and wine. I remember the cost for both me and my wife was $12 and that seemed like a miracle. There does seem to be more emerging markets to provide quality products as awareness of their existence spreads(Even in Walmart). It's not perfect and lately appears to have had a stroke.

@atyh Even if you're right to blame capitalism/consolidation, really won't it just give people what they want? If people valued beauty/quality/sustainability over whatever widget can get the job done the cheapest, we would get that don't you think?

When I see things like this, it reinforces my belief that we have lost some wonderful things as a society and they we could be so much better.

@atyh TBH, I could have run the generator, but I knew that it wouldn't last long because there was still some tar and gunk in the gas. It takes a lot maintenance and BS to make gas good enough for an engine that you want to last. I'd love to chat some more about this kind of stuff. It is not easy to live a relatively modern lifestyle off-grid in a self-sustainable way.

@Cherishingsparrows2020 @mary Yes, it is her! I don't think she's seen this post yet lol.

@atyh I built a gasifier once. Got a good flame, but never ran an engine with it. The idea was to make a small trailer-mounted device that could act as a stove and run a 500W generator. It proved too hard to pull off in such a small space for me. It is such a tinkery thing and you can never just set and forget. If I had to build another one, it would be stationary and big.

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@ThatDude @ned When I'd spend time with my grandmother in her town, I was amazed at how many people she kept up with, along with so many details of their lives. Everywhere we went there was a conversation with someone she knew. No computers or cell phones. Had to be at least 400 people on her radar, but it could have been triple that number. I got the impression that this was the norm for her generation.

@atyh I get the same vibe. I've only played around at hosting my own and pretty quickly found out that most providers filtered me out. I'm sure there are workarounds. Currently pay a local host provider for email.

@CoffeeFingers@noagendasocial.com I read a good chunk of this before I had to return it. There are a lot of important things skipped in history classes.

@cleardr0plet Yeah, we've noticed that too. Kids are learning colors and shapes and such. Wholly inappropriate content at that stage, even if you endorse such lifestyles. There's a lot of interests vying for our children. They consider them their children to an extent, but that just isn't how it works.

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